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    converting neck to timken style bearings?

    The neck bearings on my 1000G have a flat spot and are causing some erratic steering (to say the least). I am going to order new bearings, and I see that All Balls offers a timken style set of replacement bearings. Does anyone have experience swapping over to them?

    #2
    Timken is a brand, rather than a style. Bearing manufacturers typically have some sort of cross reference sheet on thier sites and I would think the bearings you are looking for are standard. Just make sure you know the type of bearing and you should be all set.

    -Mark
    -Mark
    Boston, MA
    Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
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      #3
      Looking at the fiche I think you will find taper style bearings are already in there.Suzuki was quick to change over to that style.My 78 1000 has them stock.Had loads of fun getting the new ones on

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        #4
        (close window)Boulevard Suzuki
        2610 S. Woodland Boulevard
        DeLand, FL 32720
        800-595-5068
        www.boulevardsuzuki.com 1980 SUZUKI
        GS1000G 1980-1981
        STEERING STEM
        April 27, 2012


        REF#PART#REQREMARKSYOUR PRICE1
        51410-49772-291 1$160.402.BEARING (30X55X17) XXX
        09265-30009 1$35.993SHIM, 30X40X1.5
        09181-30184 1$1.704CUSHION, BRACKET
        51553-34300 4$2.605BRACKET SET,HEA
        51500-45810-291 1$76.526
        51540-45100-291 1$24.467
        51311-49000-291 1$98.958NUT
        51353-45000 1$6.689WASHER, CENTER
        51356-31700 1$4.0110HOLDER, HANDLE UPPER
        56211-29320-291 2$8.7911BOLT
        01500-0835B 4$1.7512.WASHER
        08321-01087 4$1.0513BOLT
        01500-08507 1$1.7514WASHER
        08322-01087 1$1.0515.WASHER
        08321-01087 1$1.0516NUT
        08313-10087 1$1.2417BOLT
        01500-1055A 2$1.9718WASHER, THROTTLE DRUM
        08322-01107 2$1.0519LOCK WASHER
        08321-01107 2$1.0520NUT
        08313-10107 2$1.4321BOLT
        01500-08557 4$1.7522WASHER
        08322-01087 4$1.0523NUT
        51458-49000 2$3.5524NUT, STEERING STEM
        51631-28000 1$8.5225BEARING (25X47X15) XXX
        09265-25019 1$27.6826DUST SEAL
        51643-49002 1$6.1727COVER FRONT FOR
        51871-45101 1$29.9628
        68211-45100 1$5.0429
        56170-45100 1$20.3730.EMBLEM
        68281-45100 1$7.9831.NUT
        09148-03002 2$1.0132.SCREW, REGULATOR
        02112-05107 4$1.0033WASHER,LOCK
        08321-0105A 4$1.0534.WASHER
        08322-01057 4$1.0535REFLEX REFLECTOR FRONT
        35950-49080 2$10.30(close window)Boulevard Suzuki
        2610 S. Woodland Boulevard
        DeLand, FL 32720
        800-595-5068
        www.boulevardsuzuki.com 1980 SUZUKI
        GS1000G 1980-1981
        April 27, 2012
        (prices subject to change without notice)

        Here's a copy of Boulevard's fiche,bearing sizes in it.Put 3X's by them
        Last edited by Guest; 04-27-2012, 11:47 AM.

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          #5
          Destroy the bearing cage, then take a die grinder and cut almost all the way through the bearings race. Back up the cut race on the steering stem and whack it with a cold chisel a few times. The race should crack and come off easily.

          Or you can destroy the cage, heat the race with a torch and drive it off with an air chisel.
          De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

          http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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            #6
            Originally posted by rustybronco View Post
            Destroy the bearing cage, then take a die grinder and cut almost all the way through the bearings race. Back up the cut race on the steering stem and whack it with a cold chisel a few times. The race should crack and come off easily.

            Or you can destroy the cage, heat the race with a torch and drive it off with an air chisel.
            This has been documented a few times. Here's a post from when I did my 1000G. I think I used the All Balls kit, probably from Z1 Enterprises.
            Dogma
            --
            O LORD, be gracious to me; heal me, for I have sinned against you! - David

            Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense. - Carl Sagan

            --
            '80 GS850 GLT
            '80 GS1000 GT
            '01 ZRX1200R

            How to get a "What's New" feed without the Vortex, and without permanently quitting the Vortex

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              #7
              Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
              Timken is a brand, rather than a style. Bearing manufacturers typically have some sort of cross reference sheet on thier sites and I would think the bearings you are looking for are standard. Just make sure you know the type of bearing and you should be all set.

              -Mark
              You are 100 percent correct. "Timken" designed and patented the tapered roller bearing (which I was refering to), and I was under the impression that my steering head contained loose or caged roller bearings. All Balls lists a "conversion kit" to tapered roller bearings, so thats where I got my info from.

              Now, I need to find a kleenex....er.....facial tissue.....

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                #8
                I forgot to confirm that you definitely already have tapered rollers in there.
                Dogma
                --
                O LORD, be gracious to me; heal me, for I have sinned against you! - David

                Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense. - Carl Sagan

                --
                '80 GS850 GLT
                '80 GS1000 GT
                '01 ZRX1200R

                How to get a "What's New" feed without the Vortex, and without permanently quitting the Vortex

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dogma View Post
                  I forgot to confirm that you definitely already have tapered rollers in there.
                  Thanks! I've replaced tapered roller bearings before, and I don't like it one bit. I will just order a replacement set and get to it. Thanks to all for the responses.

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                    #10
                    I made a xerox, err copy of this thread. Sorry if I came of as kinda "assish". Hard to show intent in posts sometimes.
                    -Mark
                    Boston, MA
                    Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
                    sigpic
                    1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
                      I made a xerox, err copy of this thread. Sorry if I came of as kinda "assish". Hard to show intent in posts sometimes.
                      No offense taken on my end, so no worries!

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