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Pods in the rain

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Nes, Good data there. Most surprising thing about it is that you are only talking about a minimal airflow advantage/disadvantage regardless of the filter you are using. Since there's so much talk about pods vs airbox it might just be that the "real" difference is that pods allow a greater total amount of air intake area compared to passing the same demands via the airbox. Thus, having an airbox that could offer, say twice the filter surface area over stock, might give the same performance benefit as any pods.

This argument pops up everywhere. Interestingly, on my Triumph (CV carbs), dumping the airbox & tossing on a set of K&N's requires very little as far as adjustment goes. 1mm needle shim & 3 or 4 main jet sizes & it's pretty darn close. On that forum, we've even developed a jetting calculator program that calculates main jet size based on what brand pipes, intake mods, elevation etc... you are at and will tell you what jets to buy. Sure wish it was that simple over here.

Since I have open velocity stacks on my GS, obviously dirt isn't much of concern, but the whole "what flows best arguments" are of particular interest to me. Personally, I think the tuning issues with pods are related to reversion issues & intake runner length. I struggled adjusting low speed jets with UniFilters, it wasn't much better with 2" velocity stacks, but with 3.5" velocity stacks, low speed idle & overall performance was much improved.

Damn, now I need to make an airbox that attachs to my velocity stacks and can hold a very large filter. :-k

I guess most of this should have been in another thread, but I forgot which one I was replying too...:)
 
blowerbike said:
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Bodysnatcher.:eek:
 
Okay, you guys have convinced me. Is there any chance I can go back to the original airbox with the bigger main jet I had installed? I asked the carb guy and I don't think he wants to give back my old jet.
 
woodman said:
Dardoonk, what Triumph forum were you referring to ?
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I forget if I got from the guys on BonnevilleAmerica.com or TriumphRat.

I used to be on them both a good bit, mostly BA, but since I ride that bike & fix a zuki, I am on here a lot more.

You got a Trumpy??
 
i would only consider pods as a last resort. plain and simple. I have the K&N RC-2382 dual pods and matching dyno-jet stage 3 kit. This will set you back $200. same setup is needed for your 550L

living in portland, OR i've been riding a lot in the rain and this doesn't really cause problems but the pods are harder to get on and off than the stock airbox (on the 550 at least) and rain that hits the gas tank drains right into the side of the exposed filters. probably not a good thing long term.

If you only need the rubber boots (carb intake side) bike bandit has all four for $40. if you are like me and needed an airbox, with the plastic air collector, and the rubber boots well, good luck, you'll probably end up with pods and a jet kit.

My stock carbs had damaged and/or missing jets when i got the bike, so the jet kit helped me out there too, but again, I would much rather have a stock setup given the choice as i see no benefit to pods for your average motorcyclist.
 
forgot to mention that you'll also need a K&N 62-1010 crankcase filter, some hi-temp hosing and hose clamps if you ditch the stock air collector. another $25 gone.

I saw in another post that you had a damaged airbox.

I was unable to source a replacement air collector and airbox that was in good shape or find an ebay salvage seller with a return policy on those parts so that led me down the pod path.

personally, if you could repair the airbox and the air collector isn't deformed I would buy a new collector to airbox seal from bike bandit along with the four air collector rubber boots, put some weather stripping on the airbox cover to give it a good seal and call it good.

i wish i'd spent a bit more time trying to repair my stock setup before I drilled out my slides for the jet kit. no going back there.

of course, i don't remember if you had a stock exhaust or not? if yes, than pod/jet away, otherwise try and keep it stock. just trying to save you some grief as I've already been down this path and it offers no advantadges.
 
I should have stuck my nose in here awhile ago. I have a fair amount of experience with different forms of filters on both bikes and cars.

My 79 GS550 has had the smoothbores on it since it was a few months old. For the most part these have had open velocity stacks on them and a bit of time with K&N pods.
I have ridden in some torrential rain, Hurricane David comes to mind. No issues ever noted.
I also have many miles summer and winter in cars with dual Weber side drafts with K&Ns on it. Splashed many puddles up under the hood. Again I have never had problems.

The filters I have had problems with were foam element filters. Every time these get wet they become restricted. My early days riding my DT2 I routinely had to take the filter off and wring it out. I have had foam filters on cars and every one had issues not just with rain but simply weather changes. High humidity and the engine went off song.
Splashed a puddle in a 87 Corvette and the Filtron tore free and got sucked into the intake.

I myself install K&N or similar filters on everything now, be they pod style or whatever.
 
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