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Blastr2783
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Was that you?
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koolaid_kid
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Yeah. Where did you say you lived again?
On a motorcycle is no place to encounter road rage, either your own, or the rage of an auto driver. When people dissapoint me be not paying attention, I simply let it go. No horn, no finger, completely emotionless. If there is any action by me, it is simply 12k RPMS in 2nd gear. There ain't no Prius on earth gonna catch my FZ1 at 12k RPMS. My satisfaction comes from seeing them get smaller and smaller in the mirror.
If I flipped off every cager that tried to kill me, I might as well learn to ride one handed.
If I flipped off every cager that tried to kill me, I might as well learn to ride one handed.
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koolaid_kid
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Good point. I usually blow them off, give them a toot of the Freeway Blasters if they earned it, but mainly stay out of their way. They have already proven they are stupid, why further the cause?
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stillads
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Seems like you have a problem between 2 and 4 wheels in the us. Here in Denmark where I come from, I have the experience that we, the lorry drivers have the same problem with the 4 wheels 
One day 2 years back, I was hauling around 13 ton of scaffold, on my Volvo FH12 flatbed
down the motorway, when from a onramp a tiny litti bitti car, a Mercedes Smart
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tried to force me over from the right lane to the middle lane.
I mean, seriusly, the car was not much bigger than my frontwheel. WTF was he thinking ??? :?:
Both wehicles are modelphotos, just so that you can see the difference.
A few days later I was on a twisty road, when up from the rear came a touring group of some 30 bikes. They staid behind me, untill I waved them forward 2 - 3 - 5 at a time, as traffic allowed. Almost all of them gave a little toot with the horn as they passed, another day saved
One day 2 years back, I was hauling around 13 ton of scaffold, on my Volvo FH12 flatbed
down the motorway, when from a onramp a tiny litti bitti car, a Mercedes Smart
tried to force me over from the right lane to the middle lane.
I mean, seriusly, the car was not much bigger than my frontwheel. WTF was he thinking ??? :?:
Both wehicles are modelphotos, just so that you can see the difference.
A few days later I was on a twisty road, when up from the rear came a touring group of some 30 bikes. They staid behind me, untill I waved them forward 2 - 3 - 5 at a time, as traffic allowed. Almost all of them gave a little toot with the horn as they passed, another day saved
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koolaid_kid
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Yeah, we have the Stupid Cars here too. Expensive, poor fuel economy, but trendy. Never saw the point unless you live in the inner city where parking is at a premium.
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1_v8_merc
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Mad Mark
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road rage and motorcycles dont mix, bikes are going to lose no matter what. although i would want to do some max max sh*t and smash someones window in with my elbow or kick a mirror off if someone almost just killed me. but thats a real bad idea lol.
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pmong
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Mad Mark??? Interesting juxtaposition between moniker and comment!
Learning that the laws of physics trump the laws of man. Most times, less mass and lighter armor dictate fast escape, not frontal engagement.
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pmong
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So, I think I have learned both to not get angry with the bird and better anticipate. Today, I got run out of my lane by a BMW car on the right. I suspected he was going to do that, so was ready. Could not move forward but had enough room to move left without getting into on coming traffic. At the light, my son rode up and mentioned the dumb driver. Asked if I was angry. Said somewhat but not enough to do anything stupid. Another one of those riding experiences that I now expect, unfortunately. Does not make the BMW actions acceptable, but learning hard and soft skills to better survive the traffic.
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shwaz
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That is one of the best quotes that describes life in "Prius Land".
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bruin
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gee it must be nice to live in vermont
Okay, so they're not all like that but it seems like we have a lot less f*#^tards than you guys from big cities. In my neck of the woods, life is a little slower and most people are still neighborly.
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2wheels
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use a GoPro
use a GoPro
I have been active in the bicycling world for a long time, and with the advent of the GoPro cameras (and similar) it has become a very effective tool in the event of a car/bike confrontation.
Lots of cyclists say that simply having a camera, esp. a visible one can deter much negative action from drivers. But mainly, if someone pulls a bonehead move, and causes an accident, if you live.... you have proof of who was at fault. and camera footage is hard to dispute. The gopro has a nearly 180 degree angle as well so it can usually capture most of whats going on.
So, if someone pulls some road ragey crap on you, drives aggressively, hits and runs... you've got their plate on camera, and proof of the incident. the finger, head shakes, and the like might communicate your displeasure, but giving video evidence of intent to harm, or hit and run accidents is something they can actually go and arrest/deliver a summons over, and you can actually cause them to have to deal with the legal ramifications of their actions. get 'em on camera, and let them be. then send johnny law with a video tape their way and have them deal with their crime, which, depending on local laws, and just how aggressively they have become with their car, can be as bad as aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
Ultimately we are trying to get people like this off the road, not punish them for being jerks, however it is nice to know that they would have to deal with the consequences of their actions. But, most people who make a mistake are guilty of nothing more than a mistake, not actual malice towards the rider they nearly hit.
so, get a GoPro, slap it on there, record your rides, and delete them if nothing of interest happens... otherwise, you'll have footage of anything eventful, be it cool and worth sharing, or, scary and now able to hold people accountable.
I plan to set my bike up with a couple mounts.
use a GoPro
I have been active in the bicycling world for a long time, and with the advent of the GoPro cameras (and similar) it has become a very effective tool in the event of a car/bike confrontation.
Lots of cyclists say that simply having a camera, esp. a visible one can deter much negative action from drivers. But mainly, if someone pulls a bonehead move, and causes an accident, if you live.... you have proof of who was at fault. and camera footage is hard to dispute. The gopro has a nearly 180 degree angle as well so it can usually capture most of whats going on.
So, if someone pulls some road ragey crap on you, drives aggressively, hits and runs... you've got their plate on camera, and proof of the incident. the finger, head shakes, and the like might communicate your displeasure, but giving video evidence of intent to harm, or hit and run accidents is something they can actually go and arrest/deliver a summons over, and you can actually cause them to have to deal with the legal ramifications of their actions. get 'em on camera, and let them be. then send johnny law with a video tape their way and have them deal with their crime, which, depending on local laws, and just how aggressively they have become with their car, can be as bad as aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
Ultimately we are trying to get people like this off the road, not punish them for being jerks, however it is nice to know that they would have to deal with the consequences of their actions. But, most people who make a mistake are guilty of nothing more than a mistake, not actual malice towards the rider they nearly hit.
so, get a GoPro, slap it on there, record your rides, and delete them if nothing of interest happens... otherwise, you'll have footage of anything eventful, be it cool and worth sharing, or, scary and now able to hold people accountable.
I plan to set my bike up with a couple mounts.
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oldpara
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Yesterday on the way home from work I drive down thru the college area.
Kids crossing the street all over, I stopped to let a group cross on a cross walk. While I'm waiting I see a car wanting to pull out of a side street there at the cross walk so I figure I'd let him go because I'm already stopped.
Well all of a sudden the guy behind me starts blowing his horn, I look in the rear view mirror and it's some old buck at least 85 years old just a holloring and sticking a boney little middle finger up waving it around like some type of pointing device.
I had to smile to myself because when the old ones do stuff like that it's almost cute.
Anyway I returned the favor and to make sure he calmed down and didn't have a stroke I drove 10 to 15mph all the way to the next light.
He seemed to calm down because he passed at the light, honked his horn some more and gestured vigorously I guess as a sign of thanks.
Kids crossing the street all over, I stopped to let a group cross on a cross walk. While I'm waiting I see a car wanting to pull out of a side street there at the cross walk so I figure I'd let him go because I'm already stopped.
Well all of a sudden the guy behind me starts blowing his horn, I look in the rear view mirror and it's some old buck at least 85 years old just a holloring and sticking a boney little middle finger up waving it around like some type of pointing device.
I had to smile to myself because when the old ones do stuff like that it's almost cute.
Anyway I returned the favor and to make sure he calmed down and didn't have a stroke I drove 10 to 15mph all the way to the next light.
He seemed to calm down because he passed at the light, honked his horn some more and gestured vigorously I guess as a sign of thanks.
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1_v8_merc
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If you don't have a GoPro camera, you HAVE to buy one.
They are absolutely worth every penny, I promise.
The wideangle lens and video quality are outstanding.
When you play it back...it's like reliving the moment, down to the millisecond.
It's perfect for insurance...and they are almost unbreakable.
But it's also great for capturing those little moments where you're like "damn...I wish I had that on film to show!"
They are absolutely worth every penny, I promise.
The wideangle lens and video quality are outstanding.
When you play it back...it's like reliving the moment, down to the millisecond.
It's perfect for insurance...and they are almost unbreakable.
But it's also great for capturing those little moments where you're like "damn...I wish I had that on film to show!"
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Guest
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Some states are making it illegal to mount cameras on your helmet, while riding on the streets.
The Mrs and I have been shopping for another vehicle, we looked at the Prius and several other models that claim to have excellent MPG (40+) . Still have not found the 'right' one. Open to any suggestions anyone wishes to offer.
As far as road rage goes, I usually just try to create as much distance between myself and the enraged. Increasing or decreasing speed, changing lanes or direction and continuing with my travel. Sometimes the anti-confrontation gives them an opportunity to reflect on their own actions rather my gestures, and occasionally some will respond with the 'sorry I didn't see you wave' or a sheepish expression.
When I lived and rode in LA where lane splitting is the norm, I was a passenger in a truck where the driver all of the sudden jerked into a bikers path, yelling " I hate when they do that", I seized the moment to verbally climb up one side of him and down the other and spend the rest of the trip trying to get him to rationally explain why he would get so teed-off to the point of injuring another person for something that is mostly insignificant AND allowed by law. I'd like to think that he changed some of his driving practices that day. It takes some time & effort to control ones emotions,I usually regard the ragers as still learning that process.
The Mrs and I have been shopping for another vehicle, we looked at the Prius and several other models that claim to have excellent MPG (40+) . Still have not found the 'right' one. Open to any suggestions anyone wishes to offer.
As far as road rage goes, I usually just try to create as much distance between myself and the enraged. Increasing or decreasing speed, changing lanes or direction and continuing with my travel. Sometimes the anti-confrontation gives them an opportunity to reflect on their own actions rather my gestures, and occasionally some will respond with the 'sorry I didn't see you wave' or a sheepish expression.
When I lived and rode in LA where lane splitting is the norm, I was a passenger in a truck where the driver all of the sudden jerked into a bikers path, yelling " I hate when they do that", I seized the moment to verbally climb up one side of him and down the other and spend the rest of the trip trying to get him to rationally explain why he would get so teed-off to the point of injuring another person for something that is mostly insignificant AND allowed by law. I'd like to think that he changed some of his driving practices that day. It takes some time & effort to control ones emotions,I usually regard the ragers as still learning that process.
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1_v8_merc
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I mount mine to the gas tank.
I avoid the road rage idiots in the first place. I can usually tell by how someone is driving to know if they are someone I need to watch and stay away from. Every two or three minutes, there is always someone in the traffic I need to distance myself from.