As requested...17" GS500 wheels...

[makenzie71]

Problem is going to bearings. If it is a 1988-era GSXR750 front wheel, then it's setup for 47mm od bearings. This means bearings are going to be...tricky...

GSXR is 20X47X14
GS1000 is 15X42X13

This means you will need 15X47X14 bearings to suit your application. I'm trying to find them...I know someone makes them...but it'll take some time.

If I were you I'd tell the seller to keep his wheel and look for a GS500 wheel. It was so easy that way. The wheel was a little cheaper, the rotors were definitely cheaper...but I'm sure we can make this work out.

 

[makenzie71]

What year GS500?

Well sorry just been catching up with the thread.

I see you used 17" wheels, rotors and calipers and adapted with new hangers to your stock forks. Nice.

Watta bout the rear?

Is that a stock caliper, with GSXR hanger for the caliper? Does that fit the rotor from the 17" wheel?

I've been working with the GSXR 1st gen 750/1100 stuff so have not paid much attention to mid 80 GS stuff (after 83).

Pos

All is GS500...all years are the same sans early models were white and the later were grey....which is pointless info since you didn't ask about year (misread)



The GS500 rear rotor is smaller than the GS750 rotor so it doesn't work very well. Solution is a GSF600 caliper hanger and a GS500 caliper (same caliper as bandit but found cheaper)...I'm still waiting on those parts to come in.

 

[makenzie71]

All is GS500...all years are the same sans early models were white and the later were grey.


The GS500 rear rotor is smaller than the GS750 rotor so it doesn't work very well. Solution is a GSF600 caliper hanger and a GS500 caliper (same caliper as bandit but found cheaper)...I'm still waiting on those parts to come in.

Jed if you luck out and find a GSXR750 rear ('88 era) it's the same as the B600. Good match for the GS1000.

 

[jed.only]

i thought the 88 1100 (which i believe the wheels is from) is a 17mm axle, like my GS.

 

[makenzie71]

i thought the 88 1100 (which i believe the wheels is from) is a 17mm axle, like my GS.

Your front axle is 15mm. Your rear axle is 20mm.


1988 GSXR 1100 is 17mm up front, and 20mm.


1988 GSXR 750 is 20mm up front, and 20mm in the rear.

 

[jed.only]

Your front axle is 15mm. Your rear axle is 20mm.

blah. now im upset.

 

[makenzie71]

blah. now im upset.

In your situation I would tell the seller to keep the wheel and refund your money, because he was not clear with his auction. The information should be displayed correctly in the ad. The buyer should not have to sift through the Q&A. I would only do this because the bearings are going to be tricky.


I really think the GS500/etc wheel is the best up front for your application.

 

[posplayr]

Seller liable

Seller liable

The buyer should not have to sift through the Q&A.

The correction to a 3.5x17" wheel was NOT in the Q&A. The seller only responded to me.

Tell him a bunch of guys are GSXR are watching what he does

Pos

 

[makenzie71]

The correction to a 3.5x17" wheel was NOT in the Q&A. The seller only responded to me.

Tell him a bunch of guys are GSXR are watching what he does

Pos

Yeah that's unacceptable. I'd try my damnedest to give him and his account **** just due to the fact I actually got suspended from eBay for lesser things.

 

[jed.only]

can i use the wheel or not? i bought it because i had finally settled on those wheels as replacements to my star wheels that i hated so much. i wanted spokes originally, then i got into the idea of more modern wheels and RADIAL tires. after crunching numbers, i figured the k4 GSXR1000 front end swap was out of my budget, i figured just swapping in wheels with my existing forks and maybe an 1100 swingarm would make me happy.

 

[makenzie71]

Okay this took a lot of hunting to find...just keep that in mind...

go here:

http://bearingsdirect.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3484

That's the bearing you need. You need two of them. You're still going to have to sort something for the bearing spacer inside the wheel. We'll have to see if your GS piece matches to space given in the GSXR wheel.

Rotors are your next concern.

 

[jed.only]

Okay this took a lot of hunting to find...just keep that in mind...

go here:

http://bearingsdirect.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3484

That's the bearing you need. You need two of them. You're still going to have to sort something for the bearing spacer inside the wheel. We'll have to see if your GS piece matches to space given in the GSXR wheel.

Rotors are your next concern.

HA! i sourced the exact same bearing! you know what it's for? automotive alternators.


rotors? cant i use the rotors that are for the wheel IE early GSXR or katana rotors? plus, i cant seem to find where to buy rotors for motorcycles, like lists and pictures and options. it seems its only EBC and Galfer, and finding fitments and prices is difficult.

 

[makenzie71]

HA! i sourced the exact same bearing! you know what it's for? automotive alternators.


rotors? cant i use the rotors that are for the wheel IE early GSXR or katana rotors? plus, i cant seem to find where to buy rotors for motorcycles, like lists and pictures and options. it seems its only EBC and Galfer, and finding fitments and prices is difficult.

I'm pretty sure the 1988 GSXR750 uses the same rotors as the GS500 so they'll be pretty easy to source. Mid-90's (the swoopy wheel ones) Katana 600's, Bandit 1200's, GS500's, GSF400's, and a few others all carry the same rotors. eBay usually have an assortment...


If I'm not mistaken just about all the swoopy-spoke wheels have the same bolt pattern so you can get rotors from the GSXR750 you got the wheel from or you can get Bandit 600 rotors or Katana rotors...but you have to look for a bike that has a 110~120mm tire up front standard (meaning it's a 3~3.5 wheel) and comes with 4 or 6 piston calipers. You have to look at that because the donor bike has to be equiped with offset rotors...if the rotors aren't offset they won't work.


I can probably find you a couple GS500 rotors...310mm is about teh best you can get with zooki rotors...I'll get back to you on it.



If I ever have a $600 check burning a hole in my pants I'd get these...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GSF1...1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

 

[tone]

If I'm not mistaken just about all the swoopy-spoke wheels have the same bolt pattern so you can get rotors from the GSXR750 you got the wheel from or you can get Bandit 600 rotors or Katana rotors...but you have to look for a bike that has a 110~120mm tire up front standard (meaning it's a 3~3.5 wheel) and comes with 4 or 6 piston calipers. You have to look at that because the donor bike has to be equiped with offset rotors...if the rotors aren't offset they won't work

You are mistaken :lol:

bandit 12 & slingshot disc diameters are the same but the ofsett is different by 2mm, bandit 6 discs smaller dia than the above, early kat discs different again, slabside gsxr discs different, not sure about the gs 500 discs but i suspect they are the same as b6 (check it please) you could throw RF600 or 900 into the mix as well

early watercooled discs as per b12 & slingshot later ones where the flat ( no ofsett) type as per hyabusa & TL1000

nissin 4 & 6 pot calipers from the 90's gsxr's have 90mm centre mounting holes the same as early (hinkley) triumph calipers (same thing but badged differently) some late model tociko 6 pot calipers from suzuki's & kawasaki's also 90mm (ofsetts vary 1mm) lates suz stuff went to narrower mount points, bandit 6 & rf 6 calipers 2 pot with narrow centres for the mount holes

slingshot curved spoke rear wheels mainly 4.5" rear change to 5.5" around 91-92 fronts are 3.5" bandit 12 5.5" rear & 3.5" front bandit 6 4.5" rear 3" front ..... RF900/ 600 a lottery on the front sizes depending on the intended market rears as per bandits

hope it helps

 

[jed.only]

You are mistaken :lol:

bandit 12 & slingshot disc diameters are the same but the ofsett is different by 2mm, bandit 6 discs smaller dia than the above, early kat discs different again, slabside gsxr discs different, not sure about the gs 500 discs but i suspect they are the same as b6 (check it please) you could throw RF600 or 900 into the mix as well

early watercooled discs as per b12 & slingshot later ones where the flat ( no ofsett) type as per hyabusa & TL1000

nissin 4 & 6 pot calipers from the 90's gsxr's have 90mm centre mounting holes the same as early (hinkley) triumph calipers (same thing but badged differently) some late model tociko 6 pot calipers from suzuki's & kawasaki's also 90mm (ofsetts vary 1mm) lates suz stuff went to narrower mount points, bandit 6 & rf 6 calipers 2 pot with narrow centres for the mount holes

slingshot curved spoke rear wheels mainly 4.5" rear change to 5.5" around 91-92 fronts are 3.5" bandit 12 5.5" rear & 3.5" front bandit 6 4.5" rear 3" front ..... RF900/ 600 a lottery on the front sizes depending on the intended market rears as per bandits

hope it helps

my head is about to explode. so do i keep the front wheel i bought or scrap it?

 

[makenzie71]

You are mistaken :lol:

bandit 12 & slingshot disc diameters are the same but the ofsett is different by 2mm, bandit 6 discs smaller dia than the above, early kat discs different again, slabside gsxr discs different, not sure about the gs 500 discs but i suspect they are the same as b6 (check it please) you could throw RF600 or 900 into the mix as well

early watercooled discs as per b12 & slingshot later ones where the flat ( no ofsett) type as per hyabusa & TL1000

B12 and GS500 are the same...I've never seen a flat B12 disc. All 310mm and same offset as all B12 discs are a bolt on for GS500's. I don't know about RF600...they use same as B6 I think, which are different. '94 era Katana 600 discs are also a direct bolt on for the GS500.

nissin 4 & 6 pot calipers from the 90's gsxr's have 90mm centre mounting holes the same as early (hinkley) triumph calipers (same thing but badged differently) some late model tociko 6 pot calipers from suzuki's & kawasaki's also 90mm (ofsetts vary 1mm) lates suz stuff went to narrower mount points, bandit 6 & rf 6 calipers 2 pot with narrow centres for the mount holes

Calipers don't matter...he can use any caliper...he has to build a new hanger for them either way, so he can use just about any caliper and any disc diamter/offset. The discs just have to bolt to the wheel.

Patience, Jed...we're trying to find out if you can use the wheel. I still stand by my original advice, though, and tell the guy to keep the wheel since he lied about it, then find a GS500 wheel...I've already done it and can tell you EXACTLY what you need for the GS500 wheel.

 

[tone]

my head is about to explode. so do i keep the front wheel i bought or scrap it?

Sorry mate all that stuff was just off the top of my head as ive not actualy done the specific swap you are trying i cant answer the question with any real certainty i just thought the above background info might be usefull

 

[tone]

B12 and GS500 are the same...I've never seen a flat B12 disc. All 310mm and same offset as all B12 discs are a bolt on for GS500's. I don't know about RF600...they use same as B6 I think, which are different. '94 era Katana 600 discs are also a direct bolt on for the GS500.

Read again i didnt say b12 discs were flat !
Dont know about gs500 discs as i did say.....are thay 290mm dia the same as b6 & rf6 ??? also didnt dispute wether any of the above bolted on !




[/quote]Calipers don't matter...he can use any caliper...he has to build a new hanger for them either way, so he can use just about any caliper and any disc diamter/offset. The discs just have to bolt to the wheel.[/quote]

Calipers & ofsetts were mentioned for when/ if you experiance clearance issues with the wheel he is thinking of using


cheers tone

 

[tone]

The straight spoke wheels aren't compatible...you want the curvy ones...they'll match the front GS500 wheel.

Incorrect
straight spoke bandit wheels are a direct swap for curved spoke slingshot wheels

 

[jed.only]

i may just buy the GSXR1000 front end and be done with it.