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ok so i pulled the starter out so i could swap out the new repair kit pieces with the old. and i think i found part of the issue. besides being completely dirty, one of the magnets from the inner wall has come loose and is partly broken.... does this mean i need a new starter? or is there a way to fix the one magnet?
 
Yes, not worth the hassle of fixing yours. The difference with this ND starter is the rear end mount - internals are identical to others. Here is a claimed low mileage starter from a mainer off a gs550. Change the rear end mount and you should be good to go! I recall someone doing this years ago.

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disclamer. I have bought from this seller with no issues bu he is NOT a relative or friend!
 
update. got everything reinstalled but now the starter is just making a buzzing sound, kinda like a blender. i can tell that it is the sound of the starter spinning but thats all i get. i thought the battery might need some charging. but after an hour on the charger i still only get the blender noise...
 
Gorminrider said:
clean-up of the starter motor often helps.

Best is: Take it out, take it apart, clean the carbon dust out, a little grease on bearings but especiallly , inspect the brushes. Bench test it (as below) before putting it back in.

Starter motors commonly wear their brushes out. You can find a brush set online. Often that's the most they need...I can't say for how long though. I've never myself yet seen the 35 year old glue that holds the magnets fail, but I have seen it on other makes and one wonders if these also may all fall apart like cinderella at year 40!!
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One of the magnets in my starter shattered to pieces, back in the 80's. Due the cost of a new starter, I removed all of the magnet piece, reassembled, and it still works just fine today.!
 
still looking for thoughts on what i should check out next. what is this blender noise?
 
Buzzing sound? So starter motor is turning but is it engaging starter clutch? You did put the intermediate gear assembly back in. (so it can spin starter clutch)
 
You need to remove stator cover and inspect starter clutch assembly - it needs to be driven in counterclockwise direction to engage crankshaft .Facing shaft end, the starter motor turns counterclockwise -
 
i pulled the stator cover off and everything seems to be in place and the stator looks to be in good condition as well. the starter is spinning the gears just fine but nothing kicking over still. do i need to replace the clutch assembly? or just make sure it's working? not sure i follow what you mean by driving the crankshaft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x68T2LHq9B4
 
The big gear on rotor needs to spin counterclockwise to engage crankshaft (and turn motor). Your's is not. The intermediate gear layout is odd here, but my eyes might be fooling me. Can you remove the intermediate gear assembly and post a pic of it? Starter motor needs to turn cc too.
 
is it possible that if i had put the out body of the starter on the wrong way that the magnets would cause it to spin the opposite direction? what other reason would there be for it to spin clockwise instead of counter cw?
 
so that is exactly what it was, the starter body was 'upside down' took it apart and filled it over. reinstalled and it started right up!!!

thank you all for your help in this matter!
 
Yes, DC motors can run either direction, depending on brush orientation on commutator . I'm glad that you persevered. Now reward yourself by catching up on all the maintenance (after some riding of course).
 
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