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Quick clutch springs question

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Is replacing (upgrading) all 6 clutch springs likely to have much more effect than having just done the 3 (which had minimal effect) ?
(addressing slipping clutch under power)
thanx
 
Did you get stock springs?
Also deglaze the steels with some steel whool
 
Aftermarket springs are stiffer than stock. Many people use half OE and half aftermarket, since full aftermarket makes the hand effort high.
 
With three stock springs (good ones) and three Barnett HD you should be fine with a stock motor and good steels and fibers.
Got a caliper? Spec the fibers and steels.
 
Nessism said:
Aftermarket springs are stiffer than stock. Many people use half OE and half aftermarket, since full aftermarket makes the hand effort high.
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no wifey, my wrists are pretty strong
but did the 3 and 3. no real improvement.
 
chef1366 said:
With three stock springs (good ones) and three Barnett HD you should be fine with a stock motor and good steels and fibers.
Got a caliper? Spec the fibers and steels.
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well the 3 stock I removed were obviously original (37K miles)
hmmm
no calipers but I need to score some
cheers
 
Put the six Barnett in then.
Worn out springs won't help much.
Go to autozone and get some calipers. Good fibers will spec out at 28mm.
Can't remember the steels.
No sense in putting it back together without checking it all out.
 
chef1366 said:
Go to autozone and get some calipers. Good fibers will spec out at 28mm.
Can't remember the steels.
No sense in putting it back together without checking it all out.
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can I assume 2.8mm with respect to the minimum fiber thickness? I'll get some calipers tomorrow.
here's a photo of the steels (don't know if this will be telltale or not) ... but I'll guess that some steel wool certainly won't do any harm.
Thanx again
 
Yes 2.8 :o
sorry
My manual is in Bakersfield and going on memory. 28mm is pretty silly though.
 
it was a legit number for this rookie, until I actually undid some bolts and figured the diameter wasn't 28mm / the circumference isn't 28mm ("oh, maybe there's simply a missing decimal point!?" ...bladdy blah blah ... bear with me ...)
but I am a 'quick study'.
much appreciated
the Extra Special will live again jaja

chef1366 said:
Yes 2.8 :o
sorry
My manual is in Bakersfield and going on memory. 28mm is pretty silly though.
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2.6 is the minimum but I've always had slippage if it measured much under 2.8.
I'm big and my bike ain't stock.
 
lame photo I know ... OLD camera ... but when is it obvious that a clutch basket is fried?? ... there's lots of 'gnurling' (?) on the ridges

AND ... how many plates and fibres are there s'pose to be?? (1100ES) ... it wasn't obvious to me looking at a fiche ... I THINK I may have an extra of both 10 & 11 (?) ... I'll recheck in the morning before the beers :)

thanx for any input
 
I just had my clutch out. Can't remember how many plates there were... Just a lot of them. :rolleyes:

But I need to go back in there.

Question. Did you drain your oil? It's a pain to remove the exhaust just to drain the oil. And all I want to do is check the clutch and stuff. Can I leave it on the kickstand? I've seen people say you could...
 
ptexotik said:
lame photo I know ... OLD camera ... but when is it obvious that a clutch basket is fried?? ... there's lots of 'gnurling' (?) on the ridges

AND ... how many plates and fibres are there s'pose to be?? (1100ES) ... it wasn't obvious to me looking at a fiche ... I THINK I may have an extra of both 10 & 11 (?) ... I'll recheck in the morning before the beers :)

thanx for any input
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Are you sure you have stock discs? Some aftermarket discs are thinner and come with an extra...
If you have good OEM discs and new OEM springs, your clutch shouldn't slip...
If you need 6 aftermarket stiff springs to make it work, something is wrong...
 
That clutch basket looks pretty chewed up. I think (might be wrong) in 1983 Suzuki went to an extra plate type clutch kit for the 1100 which is just as bad as the Barnett version when it comes to chewing up the basket. At any rate, you might want to sand out and really bad ridges, or look for a better basket, and make sure you have a good set of fibers, not the extra plate variety.
 
Baatfam said:
Are you sure you have stock discs? Some aftermarket discs are thinner and come with an extra...
If you have good OEM discs and new OEM springs, your clutch shouldn't slip...
If you need 6 aftermarket stiff springs to make it work, something is wrong...
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cheers for that
 
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