what R/R for 1100E?

[Mad Mark]

i know theirs a ton of information on here about RRs but its a little overwhelming to look through all of it. can someone point me in the right direction of a good RR. i heard the ones on bikebandit like ricks electrosport and one other arent that good.

so what about the shindengen RR everyone talks about? seems like there is a ton of different ones. which will work? i have a stock stator.

thanks for any suggestions.

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

See the "approved" list in the electrical section of my little website. Or if you want a new one and money is no object, go for the Compufire unit.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[koolaid_kid]

The Polaris series unit for around $70 brand new seems a good choice, although we don't have any empirical data on it yet.

 

[tom203]

... although we don't have any empirical data on it yet.

"empirical data" ? you have to have faith that all those google posts claiming it (the SH-775) is a series R/R are not wishful thinking. Sooner or later, one of us will get ambitious and find out.

 

[koolaid_kid]

"empirical data" ? you have to have faith that all those google posts claiming it (the SH-775) is a series R/R are not wishful thinking. Sooner or later, one of us will get ambitious and find out.

Thanks, tom. You have made my morning.
If it is on the Internet, it has to be true, right?
I believe a series regulator can be built for that price, a point I brought up years ago when the Compufire was first introduced to the forum. We just need someone to provide evidence to support the claims.

 

[Steve]

"empirical data" ? you have to have faith that all those google posts claiming it (the SH-775) is a series R/R are not wishful thinking. Sooner or later, one of us will get ambitious and find out.

I will be getting ambitious in that direction in a couple of weeks.

When that unit was introduced here, the validity of the "series" claim was questioned. There were links posted to the Shindengen site where their description of the part said it is a "series regulator". All of the part descriptions on the Polaris parts fiche also say "series", but if you can't believe the manufacturer, who are you going to believe?

If it is on the Internet, it has to be true, right?

Bon jour, k_k.

.

 

[Mad Mark]

so would something like this be good then?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-05-HONDA...Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2fe94125&vxp=mtr

 

[koolaid_kid]

so would something like this be good then?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-05-HONDA...Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2fe94125&vxp=mtr

ABSOLUTELY NOT!
If you are going to spend that much money, get the Polaris. Can someone point him to that thread, please?
You should not spend more than $20-30 on a used Shindingen.

 

[posplayr]

http://pdf.datasheetpro.com/ShindengenElectricMfg/SH775-Data.pdf

If this is the unit it is a little marginal (thermally) according to the spec. Typical GS current draw is 14-15 amps and at 40 degC (104 degrees) you are below 14 amps. You would need some type of heat sink or dare I recommend a CPU fan????

 

[tom203]

That spec sheet seems to figure no air cooling effect. This one implies that air flow boosts output safely to a adequate level for a typical suzuki stator.

 

[posplayr]

That spec sheet seems to figure no air cooling effect. This one implies that air flow boosts output safely to a adequate level for a typical suzuki stator.

OK that looks good. I found the following comparison here that shows pretty clearly that this SH-775 is a SERIES R/R. Perhaps not the best but still I am sure if you can get one that it is Series.

https://www.shindengen.co.jp/product_e/electro/catalog.html

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Something like this for $29:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Honda-...Parts_Accessories&hash=item4609623a09&vxp=mtr


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[posplayr]

This is how I believe the Compufire compares. The CF uses FETs on all 6 legs as opposed to using SCR's (The Cycle Electric uses SCR's as described by the designer). The SCR's are bipolar devices that drop more voltage than a MOS FET.

 

[tom203]

Hi,

Something like this for $29:


BassCliff

Or this for $6 ..... cheapest I've seen in months!
http://srx.ebaymotors.ebayrtm.com/c...26798904752505513&lid=863515&m=177429&pi=4506

 

[Mad Mark]

think i should just get one of those you guys posted on ebay? im dying not being able to ride.

 

[tom203]

think i should just get one of those you guys posted on ebay? im dying not being able to ride.

No need to think- get a cheap Shindengen now; you can always upgrade later!

 

[subid]

think i should just get one of those you guys posted on ebay? im dying not being able to ride.

I used a 5 dollar Ebay Shindengen 232 and my charging system has been working great for a year.
I just followed these instructions

http://members.dslextreme.com/users...ing_Honda_Regulator-Rectifiers_for_GS_use.pdf

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=152769&highlight=charging+system+health

 

[trippivot]

I like ZX shinnengen units

I like ZX shinnengen units

I really like to use the late 80S and 90's kawasaki ZX series R&R - only thing to watch is the the amp hour of the system R&R comes from -- any thing with a Perment Magnetic System charging system and over a 14AH battery. -- it gets very-very hot if you use a EX 500 or CB650 or something smaller than the GS - well,they all get hot from gating EMF off to ground but smaller ones melt.

the mount is common and plug in is very solid .. but it is a matter of preference.

 

[Mad Mark]

No need to think- get a cheap Shindengen now; you can always upgrade later!

i got that one you linked me to thanks guys and thanks for finding that Tom really appreciate it. now i just got to wait till it gets here and test to make sure its good and if it isnt im out 12 bucks

 

[tom203]

Three Shindengens have been tested by me and passed along- I'd guess they are hard to kill. I tortured one last summer with a bad stator and it didn't care. Make sure you have good connections and then TEST !