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    #31
    @ chuck... Gents, sorry for the delay, I've been on holiday for a few weeks. Ok, so here's where we are at. After an unsuccessful attempt to have a new key made for the old ignition cylinder, i decided to buy a direct replacement ignition (EMGO 40-71010). Fit like a glove...but no start. When I put the key in the "ON" position, i get power to all areas of the bike (horn, lights, ignition switch, etc...). But when I push the start button, NOTHING. No sound what's so ever. I've since taken the ignition switch apart and cleaned every nook and cranny. Did not make a difference. Decided to check the wiring within the ignition cylinder, and the wiring line up is different than on the original cylinder (original: Orange, Red, Brown, Grey.......New cyclinder: Red, Orange, Brown, Grey). Now i'm wondering whether a factory miswire on the new cylinder could be the culprit. Maybe the ignition switch is not getting the signal. Any help would be appreciated.

    rob

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      #32
      look on the cylinder sides of the OLD ignition..there should be a set of numbers on there..That nis the key code. If not there take the seat latch off an look that over as well.. usually both the seat latch lock and the ignition are stamped with the key code.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #33
        @ chuck... found the number. It does NOT match the number of the NEW cylinder, but not sure it would. When I purchased the NEW cylinder, I did some research to make sure I was getting the best price. Ebay, JCWhitney and Powersport all referenced the same EMGO model number for my year and model.

        It has to be something super simple. I decided to eliminate a bad starter motor so jumped it directly from battery and it turns over (no gas tank so it didn't fire up).

        I have the original start switch which I replaced due to a broke push button. Aside from the push button, the switch is fully functional. Neither the old or new switch make any noise when button is pushed. Something has to be interrupting the signal between starter button and solenoid.

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          #34
          Thats weird..I thought that a few weeks ago it was all working just fine..maybe i am mistaken but i thought that the thing cranked when you pushed the starter buttton after you had replaced the starter selinoid!!
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            #35
            @ chuck.... i LOOOOOOOVE this site. I went back to forum to see if you had replied and accidentally clicked an a thread regarding a solenoid issues (which was the reason I started my thread). So i figured i would read through and try to help answer... That's when it hit me. CLUTCH SAFETY wires. They weren't originally hooked up, but when i took apart the cluster and light to install new ignition cylinder, decided to hook them up (didn't know what they were at the time). As it turns out, I had them backwards. Just disconnected them and push the button and it fired right up.....

            Alright man, I'm not done with you yet. I've got some more tinkering to do.

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              #36
              Cool..So now you can reinstall the ORIGINAL ignition and use those numbers so a locksmith can cut you a key.. Keep the replacement you bought for a spare just in case...or return it once you get a key cut if you need the cash.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #37
                @ chuck.. unfortunately, the ORIGINAL is shot. I replaced it because I accidentally put it in the "PARK" position and because of its age, the tumblers will not disengage allowing it to go back to ON. I took it to a locksmith, but was told that the bench fee would be $45-60 to rebuild it. JCWhitney had the new ignition on sale for $8.68. Huge difference. At that price, i'm willing to carry 2 keys (1 for ign. and 1 for tank/storage).

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                  #38
                  Well ya didnt say all that!! I was thinking you had just lost the key!! LOL. Yeah that makes sense for 9 bucks!!!
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #39
                    gotta go..my hour at the library is about to expire..keep us posted
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #40
                      Just looking over this again. And we still don't know if bike is running? Or did I miss another thread? terrylee

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                        #41
                        I just found this thread.. It reads like the Doc Hollywood movie with the Pakastani. If this makes no sense, watch the movie. I am hooked... Did it start? Tune in next week for the answer...
                        Curt
                        sigpic'85 GS1150 1428 14-1 200+hp Hang On

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                          #42
                          @ bellucci.... funny movie reference. I went back and read through it, good stuff
                          @ all others....NOPE, still not running. It turns over but doesn't actually fire up....at least not for extended periods of time. On one or to occasions, it idled for 30-45 seconds. One time it even ran just long enough for me to get excited, put on my jacket and helmet and the second i went to mount her, she stopped and wouldn't restart.
                          Just to recapped, the oils been changed, the carbs are fresh, the petcock has been rebuilt and the filter is in the airbox. So what is the hold up?

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                            #43
                            "...and the second i went to mount her she stopped and wouldnt restart" I would say the ACTUAL problem is that its a FEMALE bike!!!!!
                            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by bighamms View Post
                              Just to recapped, the oils been changed, the carbs are fresh, the petcock has been rebuilt and the filter is in the airbox. So what is the hold up?
                              Tight valves?
                              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                              2007 DRz 400S
                              1999 ATK 490ES
                              1994 DR 350SES

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                                #45
                                @big T... I sent basscliff a note asking for some personal mentoring on the valve adjustments. I've never tackled that before so looking for some solid help/advice before I screw things up

                                @chuck... i ONLY mount the females.

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