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High temp thread lockers??
I am planning on converting my stock exhaust bolts on my 750s to exhaust studs permanently installed in to the heads. I am wondering what ..or if ..there is a thread locker which will satnd up to the temperature at the heads.MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.Tags: None
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Forget the thread locker, use anti-seize instead. Just screw in the studs and leave it be. You may have to take them out some day.Ed
To measure is to know.
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Originally posted by jwhelan65 View PostAnything recommended for the petcock screws that penetrate the tank?Ed
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Nessism...The whole idea i am thinking is to never have to take them out.. If i change the exhaust bolts from the screw in bolts to permanent studs then all i should evere have to remove is the lock washer and a nut. The thing is i dont wanna inadvertently be screwing out a stud as i am trying to remove the nuts.. thats why i was wondering about a high temp threadlocker to lock the studs into the heads.MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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Originally posted by chuck hahn View PostNessism...The whole idea i am thinking is to never have to take them out.. If i change the exhaust bolts from the screw in bolts to permanent studs then all i should evere have to remove is the lock washer and a nut. The thing is i dont wanna inadvertently be screwing out a stud as i am trying to remove the nuts.. thats why i was wondering about a high temp threadlocker to lock the studs into the heads.Ed
To measure is to know.
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I just simply wanna know if theres a threadlocker that will withstand the temps or not..Its not a philosophical debate here. I wanna lock them in if i can and thats that! Just a yes or no will do.MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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Originally posted by chuck hahn View PostNessism...The whole idea i am thinking is to never have to take them out.. If i change the exhaust bolts from the screw in bolts to permanent studs then all i should evere have to remove is the lock washer and a nut. The thing is i dont wanna inadvertently be screwing out a stud as i am trying to remove the nuts.. thats why i was wondering about a high temp threadlocker to lock the studs into the heads.Last edited by srsupertrap; 01-02-2010, 03:14 PM.Steve
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forget it guys...obviously you dont understand the question or what i wanna accomplishn here.... sorry to have bothered anyoneMY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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LET ME EXPLAIN AGAIN> I want to change the screw in/screw out exhaust bolt to permanent studs so these mother&&^&^&&ers stop snapping off in the heads. I am frustrated and just wanted to know if a HIGH TEMP thread locker exists . all i could find at the auto parts store was the red colr. I NEVER EVER EVER EVER wanna remove them from the bolck..EVER EVER EVER....MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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Product data sheet info is available on the web. Threebond RED is for studs and is good for 150C temps... http://www.threebond.com/aftermarket.htm You can look up similar info for Loctite brand I suspect.
It's a bad idea to glue those things in. What happens if you strip the threads on one? What happens if you want to remove the engine (studs hit the frame)? Nothing good comes from threadlocking these thing in.Ed
To measure is to know.
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Loctite red if you're sure you want to go down this way. Don't go any more than this - the green for example will set like glass and then you really are boogered if you strip the threads.79 GS1000S
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OK, guys, let's not confuse him with reality, let's just give him what he asked for.
Click on THIS LINK to see the Loctite fact page. Look in the column on the right that shows how much of the strength is retained at 150 degrees (C). Scroll down about half-way, you will see a few that manage to do that.
Chuck, I understand your frustration at having ONE bad experience with a stud coming out. What these guys are trying to tell you in all their various ways, is that we have ALL had that problem, too. Some of us might have already tried what you are wanting to do and have already found out that it was not the best way to do it. We are all trying to save you from a post in about a year or so that says "How do it remove those ^%&$%^ studs that I chemically welded into place???"
Trust me, we understand your frustration, we're just trying to tell you that your idea of a "fix" is not the best way to do it.
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Originally posted by Steve View PostOK, guys, let's not confuse him with reality, let's just give him what he asked for.
Click on THIS LINK to see the Loctite fact page. Look in the column on the right that shows how much of the strength is retained at 150 degrees (C). Scroll down about half-way, you will see a few that manage to do that.
Chuck, I understand your frustration at having ONE bad experience with a stud coming out. What these guys are trying to tell you in all their various ways, is that we have ALL had that problem, too. Some of us might have already tried what you are wanting to do and have already found out that it was not the best way to do it. We are all trying to save you from a post in about a year or so that says "How do it remove those ^%&$%^ studs that I chemically welded into place???"
Trust me, we understand your frustration, we're just trying to tell you that your idea of a "fix" is not the best way to do it.
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I think the saying is "Never say Never"
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I am sure i will never ever remove the studs once in..I can slip the flanges over the ends of the studs easily enough. I dont see why they just didnt make them stud style from the getgo. I would rather use a nut splitter if the nut gets rusted on instead of doing the drill and tapping if another one breaks off in there..I have had to do this 3 times already and i just wanna eleviate the worry of yet another one someday. I have used nut splitters on frozen nuts and it sure does work with much less of an " OH SHEIT" Feeling when one snaps. I am gonna use the strongest lock threader i can find and thats how its gonna go down. Sorry for being snippy earlier but i was just frustrated and PEED OFF big time.MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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