Guzziboys gsx400F of death

[guzziboy]

Given that it's mechanical advance, you can adapt any Suzuki Dyna S onto it. Just remount the Dyna pickups onto the OE backplate.

I'm about 20 minutes from Methven...and got called in to advise when a couple of locals wanted a street circuit there, eased the way for approval for them. I assume you're a skiier.

Sounds like a plan too me will the dyna s replace my igniter box if I get the whole kit?

I love methven , I was over there snowboarding and met an Irish girl and the rest they say, is history been most years for the last 5!

 

[guzziboy]

Guys here is the igniter unit

It has 3 rows of wires coming out
3 on the top row black/yellow, brown and black/white(this ones earthed to frame)
2 on the middle row green/white , white
2 on the bottom orange/white , black/white

 

[GregT]

Sounds like a plan too me will the dyna s replace my igniter box if I get the whole kit?

Yes - you can ditch the ignitor, the Dyna setup is much simpler. it's quite possible looking at the pics that a kit for a GSX750 may drop on.

I love methven , I was over there snowboarding and met an Irish girl and the rest they say, is history been most years for the last 5!

Ah, Irish girls.....next time you come over, sing out, i'm on the road into Christchurch.

 

[Guest]

Guys here is the igniter unit

It has 3 rows of wires coming out
3 on the top row black/yellow, brown and black/white(this ones earthed to frame)
2 on the middle row green/white , white
2 on the bottom orange/white , black/white

You sure there's no part details on the rear of it?

Those colours look very much the same as my stock one and seem to match what's in the 82 GS450EZ wiring diagram also...

 

[guzziboy]

It's completely blank
It is 33 this year it's got 1980 printed on the wires!!!

Boyer Bransden got back to me tonight with some measurements off their kit for a gsx550, might go down that road still undecided
Thanks guys
Guz

 

[Guest]

Bugger, must have worn off at some point... from memory mine was a sticker so I'm not surprised it's not there...

Boyer Bransden should be ok, but from memory they're electronic advance so you'll need to disable the mechanical advance I think you'll find.

Otherwise if you don't want to get the full Dynatek DS3-3C kit (which may not fit actually depending on the plate size), then DS3-1 or DS3-2 modules will work just find if you replace your stock signal generator coils with them.

If you do go down that path, make sure you put a fair whack of heatsink compound underneath the modules.

 

[guzziboy]

Bugger, must have worn off at some point... from memory mine was a sticker so I'm not surprised it's not there...

Boyer Bransden should be ok, but from memory they're electronic advance so you'll need to disable the mechanical advance I think you'll find.

Otherwise if you don't want to get the full Dynatek DS3-3C kit (which may not fit actually depending on the plate size), then DS3-1 or DS3-2 modules will work just find if you replace your stock signal generator coils with them.

If you do go down that path, make sure you put a fair whack of heatsink compound underneath the modules.

Did you put a dyna system in yours Pete ?

 

[nikosg]

You're in Melbourne yeh Guzz? Give 60 Degree Motorcycles a call (in clayton i believe) and ask to speak with Geoff. He knows katana's and GS' back to front - he has helped me a lot.

 

[Guest]

Did you put a dyna system in yours Pete ?

Sure did, put the Dynatek DS3-3C kit in. Unfortunately the right side module carked it and I was able to use the modules from a DS3-2 kit to sort it out.

I'm not sure if it's a bolt in for yours or not though...

Nik, good tip!

 

[guzziboy]

Hi guys,

So I'm at my wits end now
Have been spending the last few weeks modifying a dyna2000 ignition kit to my beast. I had to change the back plate on the pickups to fit, which was pretty easy although I wanted to put it together with the stock back plate but small bolts don't cooperate with my clumsy hands



Now I'm ****house when it comes to wiring , so I followed the crappy dynatek instructions as close as I could but you guessed it I've hit problems! I've got smoke and burning wiring when I turn the ignition on

This is the wiring diagram



It shows only one wire going to the switched 12 volts but of course I have two ! So I have put one of my 12 volt wires to each coil like stock setup and ran the red back to the dyna system as per the diagram.

You guessed it the 12volt switched wire circuit is where I'm getting serious heat ( dead short??) it's the orange and white wire in the harness
?... Any ideas?

 

[guzziboy]

You can see the orange/white wire on my wiring diagram feeding the coils
That's where I'm getting the burn!

 

[GregT]

Have you gone through the Ignition Module power check sequence ?
Did the LED go on then off ?

Is the crank set in such a position that when you switch on you should have a spark ? it's possible with the "S" to my knowledge to burn out a trigger if the crank is in the right position and it's left turned on....I don't know if this applies to the 2000.

 

[guzziboy]

Have you gone through the Ignition Module power check sequence ?
Did the LED go on then off ?

Is the crank set in such a position that when you switch on you should have a spark ? it's possible with the "S" to my knowledge to burn out a trigger if the crank is in the right position and it's left turned on....I don't know if this applies to the 2000.

Nah mate only got to the first stage of the process to check the power to the module. thats when I got the nasty burn and smell to find my orange/white wires melting in the harness. i didnt even get a light on the module at all.

I think I may have made a short circuit by using BOTH my wires from the harness instead of one and bridging it across like it looks in the dynatek diagram...ready to go to work with a sledge hammer,some matches and 5 litres of fuel.

 

[GregT]

Yeah, I'd worked out from the OE wiring diagram what you'd used for power. Shouldn't make a blind bit of difference, one wire or two.

Are you using Dyna coils or the OE ones ? If Dyna, have you got a short across from the electrical terminals on the end to the mounting points ?
And again, make sure the crank isn't aligned in firing position when you turn the power on.

 

[guzziboy]

Yeah, I'd worked out from the OE wiring diagram what you'd used for power. Shouldn't make a blind bit of difference, one wire or two.

Are you using Dyna coils or the OE ones ? If Dyna, have you got a short across from the electrical terminals on the end to the mounting points ?
And again, make sure the crank isn't aligned in firing position when you turn the power on.

I'm a complete idiot part of a wire had a millimetre of crimp showing that was touching the frame:clap:

 

[Guest]

Glad you found it! I haven't seen the 2000 before but those instructions look similar to the DS3 kits... they're definitely a little light on but on the plus side if you send 'em an email for some help they'll reply pretty quick with good answers.

 

[guzziboy]

Still going to have to rewire some of my melted harness now too !

 

[Guest]

Ooops

Shouldn't be too hard though...

 

[nikosg]

Thats a blessing in disguise mate. I wish i just ripped the wires out of mine and re did the whole harness.... seriously. With the upgrades ive made at the front end, i had to relocate about five handfuls of wiring, which somehow (and im not sure how) i managed to hide under the tank. So many redundant wires now :s

 

[guzziboy]

Thats a blessing in disguise mate. I wish i just ripped the wires out of mine and re did the whole harness.... seriously. With the upgrades ive made at the front end, i had to relocate about five handfuls of wiring, which somehow (and im not sure how) i managed to hide under the tank. So many redundant wires now :s

Yeah mate I hear your pain I've got kilometres of it inside my headlight

On a brighter note the thing ran like a dream today,

On a crappy note, it's dead at the starter button now!!!!

:-( :-(

I'm gonna wait until my new key barrel arrives before I take the
Lighter and fuel out thou