Getting ready to dump in trash

[chuck hahn]

I was replying to Mikes post...which reminded me of another problem. You can take the resistors out and test them with a meter..should read 5K resistance. I always just eliminate them right off the bat even if the caps look like new. i am IN NO WAY saying yours are bad though. If you got spark on all 4 wires there isnt any immediate reason to change anything is my opinion. Have Steve come up and sort it.

I simply know they can be a problem and i see many many electrical problems posted something like this.." I have spark on number 1 but not on 4..is the coil bad"? Then the usual thought of responses ensue.

Then I pm the guy and tell him that when a coil fails it doesnt allow 1 cylinder to fire and not the other..Change out the resistors to the brass rods. Then the reply comes back after a while and like magic the spark is back..SHAZAM!!!

[Call Me Ahab]

I'm a bit late, and by no means an expert...

Do you have any oil leaks? Check your oil level and see if you're low...

I made the mistake once of ignoring a "minor" leak, and one night I realized my pan was bone dry and my bike wouldn't run longer than a few seconds.

Long shot, stupid, but that' all I got.

Good luck sir, I hope all works out - the GSR forums are definitely the right place to seek aid!

[JEEPRUSTY]

20 w 50???
a bit too syrupy I should think

[mrbill5491]

I honestly doubt my problem is in the ignition but when you're desperate what else is there you know. Yes when i popped the cap before i drained the oil it did smell like gas and yea its in neutral the entire time of course. Do you think the gas going in from the vac line on cilynder #2 could be flooding my engine?

If that is the case, you need to check the petcock to see if it is operating right. Bad petcock dumps fuel through the vacuum line into #2 floods out carb, fuels seeps into #2 cylinder, seeps past rings into the oil. DO NOT run motor with gas in the oil. Use some cheap oil until you get it figured out and fixed. Chances are you'll have to dump the oil a couple more times. Once all is fixed then put in your choice of oil and a new oil filter.

[myown550]

Hi fellas,
ok im really coming to an end with this thing i cannot for the life of me understand why is she giving me so much crap! I have done anything and everything i possibly could all by the book and in that order, why i CAN'T get this thing started?? i SWEAR i was so upset today my eyes got teary Ok my last thing to do is the resisitors removal from the caps and if that does not do it im done. I just replaced the valve cover gasket and the oil seal behind the front sprocket cause it was leaking. I also checked the exhaust and everything looks good in there too. I try starting it started for 20 seconds died and that was it. GGRRRR! sORRY guys im usually pretty mellow but this is now becoming personal

[myown550]

Ok guys, just ran the numbers on the caps
#1 cilynder = 9.6
#2 cilynder = 9.8
#3 cilynder = 14.8 +/-
#4 cilynder = 0 ohms
Any input fellas? Thanks

[chuck hahn]

Try a gravity bottle to directly feed the carbs yet?
She is at least firing and trying..right?
It kinda sounds like its just not getting gas to the carbs. To bypass the petcock will tell that story in short order. Be sure to put a bolt in the vacuum line to seal that as a possible vacuum leak.

[chuck hahn]

Also check the resistance between 1 and 4..and 2 and 3.

set a probe in 1 and 4 and see what it says for resistance..then the same between 2 and 3.


If I am remebering the test right, you also slip a match book paper between the points to ensure the coils arent grounded out while testing.

[mike_of_bbg]

If you have a multimeter test the caps first. Did Steve offer to come by? I'd take him up. He would probably be able to get you sorted pretty quickly.

There have to be some members in the Chicago area - a lot of them. If you go to Community on the tool bar and click on "members list", you can do an advanced search and put chicago in the location search. I get 29 results. Joe Nardy, MisterCinders and Nerobro are all in the area and are active on the forums. Might want to PM one of them, offer beer or other frosty beverage of choice and see if they'd be willing to have a look.

Oh, and there's a "GS Chicago" group:

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/group.php?groupid=53

[chuck hahn]

PM Rustybronco...he talked me thru the variious check on the phone once..but i must admit that was a while ago and i need a refresher course myself!!!

[mike_of_bbg]

If I am remebering the test right, you also slip a match book paper between the points to ensure the coils arent grounded out while testing.

Probably not on an 81, Chuck

Ok guys, just ran the numbers on the caps
#1 cilynder = 9.6
#2 cilynder = 9.8
#3 cilynder = 14.8 +/-
#4 cilynder = 0 ohms
Any input fellas? Thanks

#3 is a bit high, but shouldn't be enough to stop it from sparking. I'm assuming those are in kOhms (i.e., your DMM is set to say, 20kOhms). Look at the copper at the end of the wire - if you see any green like it's corroding cut 1/4" off before you screw the plug caps back in. While the caps are off you can check 1-4 and 2-3 resistance directly at the wires, should be 10-15kOhms IIRC.

Honestly I think it's carb adjustments and not electrical, but while you've got them off...

[chuck hahn]

HA HA didnt even look for the year...shame on me.

[myown550]

Ok,
one of the caps wasn't reading at all. After i removed the little screws inside the caps they were full of carbon and only 3 of them had a little springy inside the other was missing it. I am currently installing copper wires inside my stepdad is helping me with this since he's very familiar with electrical stuff. Now i am reading 0.4 ohms on the one we just did. My question is will this damage the spark plug or anything else in the electrical system?

[chuck hahn]

Clean them all and use a spring from an ink pen for the missing one. Nothin will be hurt by replacing the resistors with solid rod or wire replacements. Your doing well..just be patient and stay the course.

[mike_of_bbg]

I wouldn't think so, though, it might not be as robust under vibration. For testing purposes it would certainly be fine until you can get a new caps to replace them.

Ok,
one of the caps wasn't reading at all. After i removed the little screws inside the caps they were full of carbon and only 3 of them had a little springy inside the other was missing it. I am currently installing copper wires inside my stepdad is helping me with this since he's very familiar with electrical stuff. Now i am reading 0.4 ohms on the one we just did. My question is will this damage the spark plug or anything else in the electrical system?